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פטר חמור: Reverted edits by Filosofiajudia (talk) to last revision by פטר חמור

2023-07-09T23:32:14Z

Reverted edits by Filosofiajudia (talk) to last revision by פטר חמור

Filosofiajudia: I changed "Chochmei" to "Chachmei", bease the word חכמי in hebrew its written with the vowel patah. Rambam in Hilchot Melachim 8:11 writes it without Vav. See also the term "Chachmei Umot" in Berachot 58a, Pesachim 94b, Yoma 77a etc.

2023-07-09T20:20:55Z

I changed "Chochmei" to "Chachmei", bease the word חכמי in hebrew its written with the vowel patah. Rambam in Hilchot Melachim 8:11 writes it without Vav. See also the term "Chachmei Umot" in Berachot 58a, Pesachim 94b, Yoma 77a etc.

פטר חמור: פטר חמור moved page Chokhmei Umot HaOlam to המשולמים

2023-04-17T08:27:54Z

פטר חמור moved page Chokhmei Umot HaOlam to המשולמים

פטר חמור at 21:17, 22 February 2023

2023-02-22T21:17:28Z

פטר חמור at 12:38, 8 September 2022

2022-09-08T12:38:14Z

פטר חמור: /* Chassidei Umos HaOlam */

2021-05-11T12:23:29Z

‎Chassidei Umos HaOlam

פטר חמור at 11:58, 11 May 2021

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פטר חמור at 11:55, 11 May 2021

2021-05-11T11:55:02Z

פטר חמור at 20:23, 9 May 2021

2021-05-09T20:23:33Z

פטר חמור at 20:19, 9 May 2021

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-'''Chachmei Umos HaOlam''' ('''חכמי אומות העולם''' generally translated as "[[Mages]]" or "Wise of the Nations") is the Maimonidian term taken from the Laws of Kings 8:11 for "Noahites" or "Noachites" also known as "Noahides" who do not believe in Judaism. According to [[Halakhic Judaism]], as expressed in the [[Talmud]], the Noahide Laws apply to all humanity through mankind's ''spiritual'' descent from one paternal ancestor who in Hebrew tradition is called [[Noah]] (the head of the only family to survive during [[Deluge (mythology)|The Flood]]). Hence in the Oral Torah, בני נח ''[[B'nei Noah]]'' ([[Hebrew language|Hebrew]], "Descendants of Noah", "Children of Noah") refers to all the good people of mankind.
+'''Chochmei Umos HaOlam''' ('''חוכמי אומות העולם''' generally translated as "[[Mages]]" or "Wise of the Nations") is the Maimonidian term taken from the Laws of Kings 8:11 for "Noahites" or "Noachites" also known as "Noahides" who do not believe in Judaism. According to [[Halakhic Judaism]], as expressed in the [[Talmud]], the Noahide Laws apply to all humanity through mankind's ''spiritual'' descent from one paternal ancestor who in Hebrew tradition is called [[Noah]] (the head of the only family to survive during [[Deluge (mythology)|The Flood]]). Hence in the Oral Torah, בני נח ''[[B'nei Noah]]'' ([[Hebrew language|Hebrew]], "Descendants of Noah", "Children of Noah") refers to all the good people of mankind.
-Chakhmei Umoth HaOlam are [[Hagarim]] who have ''not'' taken the [[Oath Brith]] [[Tevilah]] even if they send offerings as Augustus Caesar did for example.
+Chokhmei Umoth HaOlam are [[Hagarim]] who have ''not'' taken the [[Oath Brith]] [[Tevilah]] even if they send offerings as Augustus Caesar did for example.
-The terms indicate non-Jews who have taken upon themselves the observance of [[Noahide Law]] for their own rational reasons.  Maimonides seems to imply that ''Chachmei Umos HaOlam'' do not have a portion in the world to come, although he doesn't actually say that. The implication therefore is that they will be judged according to their merits.
+The terms indicate non-Jews who have taken upon themselves the observance of [[Noahide Law]] for their own rational reasons.  Maimonides seems to imply that ''Chochmei Umos HaOlam'' do not have a portion in the world to come, although he doesn't actually say that. The implication therefore is that they will be judged according to their merits.
 Compare this with [[Tzadikei Umos HaOlam]] and [[Chasidei Umos HaOlam]] who observe the [[seven laws]] because they were revealed through [[Moshe Rabbenu]] as explained by Jewish tradition.
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 There are three main categories of gentiles [see R. Yom Tov ben Avraham Alshevili, Chiddushei HaRitva, Makkot 9a n.].
-===Chakhmei Umoth Haolam===
+===Chokhmei Umoth Haolam===
 The first category is the gentile who fulfills his obligations as an ethical monotheist. This person is generally called a Ben Noach (or Noachide) meaning a proud descendant of the biblical Noah. In the Jewish tradition Noah and his sons were commanded to fulfill seven commandments which amount to ethical monotheism [see Aaron Lichtenstein, The Seven Laws of Noah] Those gentiles who observe these commandments are considered righteous gentiles. They are, however, not Jews and are not considered part of Jewish society. They are righteous people and recognized for their accomplishments. However, they remain part of the human brotherhood but not part of Jewish society.

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-'''Chochmei Umos HaOlam''' ('''חוכמי אומות העולם''' generally translated as "[[Mages]]" or "Wise of the Nations") is the Maimonidian term taken from the Laws of Kings 8:11 for "Noahites" or "Noachites" also known as "Noahides" who do not believe in Judaism. According to [[Halakhic Judaism]], as expressed in the [[Talmud]], the Noahide Laws apply to all humanity through mankind's ''spiritual'' descent from one paternal ancestor who in Hebrew tradition is called [[Noah]] (the head of the only family to survive during [[Deluge (mythology)|The Flood]]). Hence in the Oral Torah, בני נח ''[[B'nei Noah]]'' ([[Hebrew language|Hebrew]], "Descendants of Noah", "Children of Noah") refers to all the good people of mankind.
+'''Chachmei Umos HaOlam''' ('''חכמי אומות העולם''' generally translated as "[[Mages]]" or "Wise of the Nations") is the Maimonidian term taken from the Laws of Kings 8:11 for "Noahites" or "Noachites" also known as "Noahides" who do not believe in Judaism. According to [[Halakhic Judaism]], as expressed in the [[Talmud]], the Noahide Laws apply to all humanity through mankind's ''spiritual'' descent from one paternal ancestor who in Hebrew tradition is called [[Noah]] (the head of the only family to survive during [[Deluge (mythology)|The Flood]]). Hence in the Oral Torah, בני נח ''[[B'nei Noah]]'' ([[Hebrew language|Hebrew]], "Descendants of Noah", "Children of Noah") refers to all the good people of mankind.
-Chokhmei Umoth HaOlam are [[Hagarim]] who have ''not'' taken the [[Oath Brith]] [[Tevilah]] even if they send offerings as Augustus Caesar did for example.
+Chakhmei Umoth HaOlam are [[Hagarim]] who have ''not'' taken the [[Oath Brith]] [[Tevilah]] even if they send offerings as Augustus Caesar did for example.
-The terms indicate non-Jews who have taken upon themselves the observance of [[Noahide Law]] for their own rational reasons.  Maimonides seems to imply that ''Chochmei Umos HaOlam'' do not have a portion in the world to come, although he doesn't actually say that. The implication therefore is that they will be judged according to their merits.
+The terms indicate non-Jews who have taken upon themselves the observance of [[Noahide Law]] for their own rational reasons.  Maimonides seems to imply that ''Chachmei Umos HaOlam'' do not have a portion in the world to come, although he doesn't actually say that. The implication therefore is that they will be judged according to their merits.
 Compare this with [[Tzadikei Umos HaOlam]] and [[Chasidei Umos HaOlam]] who observe the [[seven laws]] because they were revealed through [[Moshe Rabbenu]] as explained by Jewish tradition.
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 There are three main categories of gentiles [see R. Yom Tov ben Avraham Alshevili, Chiddushei HaRitva, Makkot 9a n.].
-===Chokhmei Umoth Haolam===
+===Chakhmei Umoth Haolam===
 The first category is the gentile who fulfills his obligations as an ethical monotheist. This person is generally called a Ben Noach (or Noachide) meaning a proud descendant of the biblical Noah. In the Jewish tradition Noah and his sons were commanded to fulfill seven commandments which amount to ethical monotheism [see Aaron Lichtenstein, The Seven Laws of Noah] Those gentiles who observe these commandments are considered righteous gentiles. They are, however, not Jews and are not considered part of Jewish society. They are righteous people and recognized for their accomplishments. However, they remain part of the human brotherhood but not part of Jewish society.

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 Chokhmei Umoth HaOlam are [[Hagarim]] who have ''not'' taken the [[Oath Brith]] [[Tevilah]] even if they send offerings as Augustus Caesar did for example.
-The terms indicate non-Jews who have taken upon themselves the observance of [[Noahide Law]] for their own rational reasons.  Maimonides seems to imply that ''Chochmei Umos HaOlam'' do not have a portion in the world to come, although he doesn't actual say that. The implication therefore is that they will be judged according to their merits.
+The terms indicate non-Jews who have taken upon themselves the observance of [[Noahide Law]] for their own rational reasons.  Maimonides seems to imply that ''Chochmei Umos HaOlam'' do not have a portion in the world to come, although he doesn't actually say that. The implication therefore is that they will be judged according to their merits.
 Compare this with [[Tzadikei Umos HaOlam]] and [[Chasidei Umos HaOlam]] who observe the [[seven laws]] because they were revealed through [[Moshe Rabbenu]] as explained by Jewish tradition.

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−	'''Chochmei Umos HaOlam''' ('''חוכמי אומות העולם''' generally translated as "[[Mages]]" or "Wise of the Nations") is the Maimonidian term taken from the Laws of Kings 8:11 for "Noahites" or "Noachites" also known as "Noahides". According to [[Halakhic Judaism]], as expressed in the [[Talmud]], the Noahide Laws apply to all humanity through mankind's ''spiritual'' descent from one paternal ancestor who in Hebrew tradition is called [[Noah]] (the head of the only family to survive during [[Deluge (mythology)\|The Flood]]). Hence in the Oral Torah, בני נח ''[[B'nei Noah]]'' ([[Hebrew language\|Hebrew]], "Descendants of Noah", "Children of Noah") refers to all the good people of mankind.	+	'''Chochmei Umos HaOlam''' ('''חוכמי אומות העולם''' generally translated as "[[Mages]]" or "Wise of the Nations") is the Maimonidian term taken from the Laws of Kings 8:11 for "Noahites" or "Noachites" also known as "Noahides" who do not believe in Judaism. According to [[Halakhic Judaism]], as expressed in the [[Talmud]], the Noahide Laws apply to all humanity through mankind's ''spiritual'' descent from one paternal ancestor who in Hebrew tradition is called [[Noah]] (the head of the only family to survive during [[Deluge (mythology)\|The Flood]]). Hence in the Oral Torah, בני נח ''[[B'nei Noah]]'' ([[Hebrew language\|Hebrew]], "Descendants of Noah", "Children of Noah") refers to all the good people of mankind.

	Chokhmei Umoth HaOlam are [[Hagarim]] who have ''not'' taken the [[Oath Brith]] [[Tevilah]] even if they send offerings as Augustus Caesar did for example.		Chokhmei Umoth HaOlam are [[Hagarim]] who have ''not'' taken the [[Oath Brith]] [[Tevilah]] even if they send offerings as Augustus Caesar did for example.

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 The first category is the gentile who fulfills his obligations as an ethical monotheist. This person is generally called a Ben Noach (or Noachide) meaning a proud descendant of the biblical Noah. In the Jewish tradition Noah and his sons were commanded to fulfill seven commandments which amount to ethical monotheism [see Aaron Lichtenstein, The Seven Laws of Noah] Those gentiles who observe these commandments are considered righteous gentiles. They are, however, not Jews and are not considered part of Jewish society. They are righteous people and recognized for their accomplishments. However, they remain part of the human brotherhood but not part of Jewish society.
-===[[Chassidei Umos HaOlam]]===
+===Uncircumcised Hebrews ([[Chassidei Umos HaOlam]])===
 There are those who go beyond this step and approach a Jewish court and, in exchange for entering Jewish society, they vow to observe their commandments and be ethical monotheists. Such a person is called a Ger Toshav.

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 '''Chochmei Umos HaOlam''' ('''חוכמי אומות העולם''' generally translated as "[[Mages]]" or "Wise of the Nations") is the Maimonidian term taken from the Laws of Kings 8:11 for "Noahites" or "Noachites" also known as "Noahides". According to [[Halakhic Judaism]], as expressed in the [[Talmud]], the Noahide Laws apply to all humanity through mankind's ''spiritual'' descent from one paternal ancestor who in Hebrew tradition is called [[Noah]] (the head of the only family to survive during [[Deluge (mythology)|The Flood]]). Hence in the Oral Torah, בני נח ''[[B'nei Noah]]'' ([[Hebrew language|Hebrew]], "Descendants of Noah", "Children of Noah") refers to all the good people of mankind.
-They are like [[Hagarim]] but who have taken no [[Oath Brith]] [[Tevilah]] even if they send offerings as Augustus Caesar did for example. They are called '''Muslamai''' in the Targum of Rabbi Onkelos. The Arabic scriptures refer to them as משלם.
+Chokhmei Umoth HaOlam are [[Hagarim]] who have ''not'' taken the [[Oath Brith]] [[Tevilah]] even if they send offerings as Augustus Caesar did for example.
 The terms indicate non-Jews who have taken upon themselves the observance of [[Noahide Law]] for their own rational reasons.  Maimonides seems to imply that ''Chochmei Umos HaOlam'' do not have a portion in the world to come, although he doesn't actual say that. The implication therefore is that they will be judged according to their merits.

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−	'''Chochmei Umos HaOlam''' ('''חוכמי אומות העולם''' generally translated as "[[Mages]]" or "Wise of the Nations") is a the Maimonidian term taken from the Laws of Kings 8:11.	+	'''Chochmei Umos HaOlam''' ('''חוכמי אומות העולם''' generally translated as "[[Mages]]" or "Wise of the Nations") is the Maimonidian term taken from the Laws of Kings 8:11 for "Noahites" or "Noachites" also known as "Noahides". According to [[Halakhic Judaism]], as expressed in the [[Talmud]], the Noahide Laws apply to all humanity through mankind's ''spiritual'' descent from one paternal ancestor who in Hebrew tradition is called [[Noah]] (the head of the only family to survive during [[Deluge (mythology)\|The Flood]]). Hence in the Oral Torah, בני נח ''[[B'nei Noah]]'' ([[Hebrew language\|Hebrew]], "Descendants of Noah", "Children of Noah") refers to all the good people of mankind.
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−	~~In Judaism these are the~~ "Noahites" or "Noachites" also known as "Noahides". According to [[Halakhic Judaism]], as expressed in the [[Talmud]], the Noahide Laws apply to all humanity through mankind's spiritual descent from one paternal ancestor who in Hebrew tradition is called [[Noah]] (the head of the only family to survive during [[Deluge (mythology)\|The Flood]]). Hence in the Oral Torah, בני נח ''[[B'nei Noah]]'' ([[Hebrew language\|Hebrew]], "Descendants of Noah", "Children of Noah") refers to all the good people of mankind.

	They are like [[Hagarim]] but who have taken no [[Oath Brith]] [[Tevilah]] even if they send offerings as Augustus Caesar did for example. They are called '''Muslamai''' in the Targum of Rabbi Onkelos. The Arabic scriptures refer to them as משלם.		They are like [[Hagarim]] but who have taken no [[Oath Brith]] [[Tevilah]] even if they send offerings as Augustus Caesar did for example. They are called '''Muslamai''' in the Targum of Rabbi Onkelos. The Arabic scriptures refer to them as משלם.

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-'''Chokhmei Umot HaOlam''' are [[Hagarim]] who have taken no [[Oath Brith]] and are not "[[baptise]]d" so only send offerings as Augustus Caesar did for example.
+'''Chochmei Umos HaOlam''' ('''חוכמי אומות העולם''' generally translated as "[[Mages]]" or "Wise of the Nations") is the Maimonidian term for Noahites taken from the Laws of Kings 8:11. They are like [[Hagarim]] but who have taken no [[Oath Brith]] [[Tevilah]] even if they send offerings as Augustus Caesar did for example. The Oral Torah refers to them as '''Bnei Noah'''. They are called '''Muslamai''' in the Targum of Rabbi Onkelos. The Arabic scriptures refer to them as משלם.
-Maimonides calls them '''חוכמי אומות העולם''' meaning wise ones of the nations.
+The terms indicate non-Jews who have taken upon themselves the observance of [[Noahide Law]] for their own rational reasons.  Maimonides seems to imply that ''Chochmei Umos HaOlam'' do not have a portion in the world to come, although he doesn't actual say that. The implication therefore is that they will be judged according to their merits.
-'''Bnei Noah''' is the [[Mishnah]]'s word for '''Noahites''' called '''Muslamai''' in the Targum of Rabbi Onkelos.
+Compare this with [[Tzadikei Umos HaOlam]] and [[Chasidei Umos HaOlam]] who observe the [[seven laws]] because they were revealed through [[Moshe Rabbenu]] as explained by Jewish tradition.
-''Chochmei Umos HaOlam'' is the hebrew term used by Maimonides in the Laws of Kings 8:11.  It is generally translated as "[[Mages]]" or "Wise of the Nations".  It indicates a non-Jew who has taken upon himself the observance of [[Noahide Law]], but observes it for their own rational reasons.  Maimonides seems to imply that ''Chochmei Umos HaOlam'' do not have a portion in the world to come, although he doesn't actual say that. The implication therefore is that they will be judged according to their merits. This is contrasted with the ''[[Chasidei Umos HaOlam]]'' who observes the [[seven laws]] because they were revealed through [[Moshe Rabbenu]] as explained by Jewish tradition..
+In Judaism these are the "Noahites" or "Noachites" also known as "Noahides". According to [[Halakhic Judaism]], as expressed in the [[Talmud]], the Noahide Laws apply to all humanity through mankind's descent from one paternal ancestor who in Hebrew tradition is called [[Noah]] (the head of the only family to survive during [[Deluge (mythology)|The Flood]]). In Judaism, בני נח ''[[B'nei Noah]]'' ([[Hebrew language|Hebrew]], "Descendants of Noah", "Children of Noah") refers to all of mankind.
 In Jewish tradition, the terms ''Ben Noach'' - Son of Noah or ''Bat Noach'' - Daughter of Noah is used to refer to a generic human being.  There are seven [[noahide laws]] that are applicable for all humanity, regardless of culture or ethnicity.  Technically the term ''Ben Noach'' or ''Bat Noach'' does not necessarily mean that an individually keeps the [[noahide laws]], however in most modern usage this is implied. Orthography: People familiar with the Hebrew letter 'ח' - Khet usually spell the word NOACHIDE, otherwise it is spelled often NOAHIDE for the convenience of English speakers.